In this episode, Diana Montalion and Lisa Maria Moritz explore the essentials of systems thinking and how it differs from linear approaches in software. Drawing from Diana's book, Learning Systems Thinking: Essential Nonlinear Skills & Practices for Software Professionals, they discuss why systems thinking is critical for addressing complex problems and fostering resilience in modern software ecosystems. The dialogue offers insights into practical skills for navigating interdependent systems and building adaptive mindsets that thrive in dynamic environments.